College Basketball Talk staff reactions to Jack Taylor’s 138-point night

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In the day after Grinnell College’s Jack Taylor set the record for most points in a college game with 138 there have been no shortage of opinions on the matter. Some were appalled while others don’t see the need for folks to be so upset. So how did the College Basketball Talk crew see Taylor’s night? Those responses are below.

Rob Dauster
It’s a D3 game against a crap team. They wanted to see how many points that could get one kid to score. Anyone that takes this nore seriously than that needs to go home, drink a beer, take a shot, and realize that life ain’t that serious.

David Harten
I’m one of those people that sees it two ways.

1.) What Grinnell plays in general is not “basketball” to me, they simply “score points”. When you do what they do, stuff like this happens. So I view Taylor’s accomplishment as more of a gimmick than a feat.

2.) It’s Division III basketball. These kids play simply because they love it and get no financial assistance based on their athletic talents. Teams like Grinnell play like this to get publicity and because it’s fun. And when you have the athletic budgets the size of some large high schools in Texas, you do what you can to get noticed.

So while I don’t see it as an overly-impressive achievement, I do see it as an accomplishment worth noticing.

Troy Machir
I’m from the  Herm Edwards school of thought: “HELLO. You play to win the game.”

During a 2007 Mid-Atlantic Conference playoff lacrosse game against top-seeded Widener College, my Elizabethtown Blue Jays took a surprising one-goal lead early in the first quarter, and decided to kill as much time off the clock as humanly possible. Widener played a packed-in zone with no pressure on the ball-handler, which allowed up to kill as much time off the clock as we wanted when we got the ball into the offensive half of the field. It took Widener 3 quarters to figure out how to force us to move the ball.  Widener came in to the game averaging roughly 14gpg. They beat us in OT 3-2.

Should we show Jack Taylor’s game footage to youth basketball coaches around the country? Of course not. But to laud this as “selfish” and “bad for basketball” is just foolish. You play to win the game. If the kid can shoot, get him the ball. If the other team can’t stop him, keep shooting.

This is D-III sports. Sure, there was probably a bit of frustration from some of the players who may have had some open look. But if you’re on a team with a dude who is approaching triple-digits, you enjoy the ride.

It’s certainly not the most ideal, foolproof formula for success, but hey, On Tuesday November 21st, it worked.

Terrence Payne
Of course this is an incredible and ridiculous number to put up in a game. At the same there are going to be purists that hate this, but can you imagine being a student at small Grinnell College watching this happen? It must have been nuts for the 36 minutes he was out there.

Fact of the matter is this is D3 ball. The Faith Baptist Bible college coach already came out and said he is not offended. Jack Taylor put up a remarkable, potentially unbeatable number. It’s a fun story for basketball that doesn’t really matter to anyone but those who play in it. Give him his 15 minutes and wake me up when Grinnell is in the D3 title game.

Raphielle Johnson
Personally I have no problem with Jack Taylor’s 138 points last night. If the announcer’s comments at the start of the webcast weren’t enough for people to realize what was going on, watching the same guy shoot over and over should have made it clear the pursuit of a record was the goal of the contest. They didn’t tell Faith Baptist to not double- or triple-team (they did this at times, but clearly not enough) Taylor; their defensive issues aren’t the fault of either Taylor or Grinnell. Frankly we watch examples of “bad” basketball every day, but which would you rather watch: a guy scoring 138 points or a display like last week’s Fresno State/UC Riverside game (halftime score: 13-11)? And personally I don’t see the harm in Taylor’s performance, especially if his teammates went along with it.

Grinnell, using the style of play they’ve played for years, decided to have a player make a run at Bevo Francis’ record and got it. The head coach at Faith Baptist didn’t sound offended, and if he was something “more” probably would have been done during the game to prevent Taylor from going off. Jack Taylor had a great night and I salute him for it.

Daniel Martin

Part of the beauty of college basketball is the fact that there are so many different schools of thought and styles of play.

Just because Grinnell plays such a radically different system, it sets off a wave of outrage? This is the way the school traditionally plays. It’s a Division III basketball team playing with non-scholarship players who are having fun.

They’re an anomaly. If you were a Division III caliber player, why wouldn’t you go play for a program that gives you the opportunity to try something so drastically different?

I understand the contrarians. There are so many similar stories praising Mr. Taylor’s achievement that there is a market for tearing it down.

But why this over-the-top negative reaction? Do we have a legitimate fear that Tom Izzo and Roy Williams are finding a way to implement this system in Division I? C’mon.

Let Mr. Taylor enjoy his 15 minutes.

Eric Angevine

Essentially, in athletics, people do what they can do, and it’s up to the opponent to stop them. Sportsmanship is a nice concept, but so is playing your best and not holding back. As Daniel pointed out, people whined about dunking (including my favorite coach of all time John Wooden), but once that genie was out of the bottle, it wasn’t going back in. Guys can dunk, now someone has to figure out how to stop them.

In college football, teams that run up the score are LOVED. And let’s all act like we would have paid one iota of attention to some news out of Grinnell if it were about how many Rhodes Scholars they cranked out or that they played a game where somebody scored one point below the previous record.

So there are the thoughts of the CBT staff on Jack Taylor’s night. We’ll leave you with a very good point that Eric made on all of this:

We’ve heard in the past week that our conferences are going to be broken up even further, the NCAA is strong-arming former college kids in Miami, and we’re more upset about a kid essentially doing what basketball players are trained to do – score.

Clemson basketball returns home after Barcelona van attack

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CLEMSON, S.C. (AP) — Clemson’s basketball team arrived back on campus, a day after a deadly van attack in Barcelona that occurred just outside their hotel.

The Tigers were preparing to play their fourth and final game of a summer tour of Spain when a van drove up on a sidewalk and crashed into scores of people in Las Ramblas promenade, killing 13. Clemson canceled the final game and flew back home as scheduled Friday.

Teams from Arizona and Oregon State were also staying at the hotel. A fourth team, Tulane, was in Barcelona at a different hotel. All of the schools said their parties were unharmed.

Clemson coach Brad Brownell tweeted Friday the team had landed in Atlanta and was “excited to be back in this great country.”

Tulane’s new court design brings back ‘Angry Wave’

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Tulane’s court design is a throwback.

On Friday night, the school revealed the new look inside Devlin Fieldhouse, with the old “Angry Wave’ logo taking its place at center court.

A little over a year ago, Tulane University announced that the old ‘Angry Wave’ logo would be reincorporated into the athletics department as a secondary logo.

Over half a century ago, the “Angry Wave” was born and became one of the most visible marks of Tulane Athletics.  Together for the first time with the “T-Wave” the Green Wave now boasts one of the most unique sets of logos in collegiate athletics.

The Green Wave finished the 2016-17 season with a 6-25 (3-15 AAC) record. The program is currently on a foreign tour in Barcelona.

Five-star big man names final two schools

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There are only two schools in contention for the services of five-star big man Nazreon Reid.

On Friday night, the 6-foot-10 New Jersey native named Arizona and LSU as the two finalists. Before the start of the July live evaluation period, Reid had trimmed his list to seven programs. Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, Seton Hall, and UCLA did not make the latest cut.

The Roselle Catholic High School center has ties to commits from both programs. Jahvon Quinerly, who picked Arizona over Villanova earlier this month, played with Reid, winning championships in 2015 and 2016 with Sports U in the Under Armour Association. According to Andrew Lopez of NOLA.com, Reid has developed a friendship with LSU pledge Javonte Smart through USA basketball and the grassroots circuit.

Reid’s commitment will bolster an already star-studded recruiting class for Sean Miller, as Quinerly is accompanied by five-star recruit Shareef O’Neal and four-star guard Brandon Williams. With Dusan Ristic exhausting his eligibility and DeAndre Ayton destined to be a top-10 pick in next summer’s NBA Draft, Reid would play a key role down low for the Wildcats during the 2018-19 season.

For LSU, this would add additional momentum for new head coach Will Wade. Since taking over the program in March, Wade has landed commitments from Smart and Tremont Waters.

Reid is listed as No. 13 overall player in the Class of 2018, according to Rivals.

Duke recruit Bagley hoping to play in the 2017-18 season

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Marvin Bagley III, widely considered the top recruit in the class of 2018, reclassified this week and could be eligible to play for Duke in the upcoming season.

His decision immediately thrusts the Blue Devils toward the front of the national-title conversation for the 2017-18 season.

But what exactly does it mean to reclassify and how does the process work?

According to the NCAA, all incoming student-athletes must complete 16 core courses from a list that includes English, math, natural or physical science, social science, foreign language, comparative religion or philosophy. Classes such as physical education, health and music do not count as core courses, nor do remedial classes or classes completed through credit-by-exam.

The student-athlete must also show proof of graduation from high school and have an ACT/SAT test score that corresponds to his or her core course GPA on a sliding scale; the higher the GPA, the lower the standardized test score needs to be.

The NCAA eligibility center’s amateurism team then determines whether to certify a student-athlete. The process and requirements are the same for every sport.

Bagley is scheduled to graduate from Southern California’s Sierra Canyon High School later this month, completing his course work a year ahead of schedule. His transcripts may be a little more complicated because he attended three different high schools and the NCAA will review his final transcript following his graduation to determine if he is eligible to play Division I basketball.

Bagley’s move is not unprecedented.

Through the years, five-star prospects who want to get a jump on their college careers — and potentially professional careers — have gone through the same process, though usually not right before the fall semester begins as Bagley did.

Mike Gminski is considered the leave-high-school-early originator, graduating a year early so he could play at Duke in 1976. He went on to become an All-American and played 17 NBA seasons.

In recent years, Kansas’ Andrew Wiggins, North Carolina State’s Dennis Smith Jr., Duke’s Derryck Thornton and Kentucky’s Karl-Anthony Towns were among the student-athletes who graduated early to play college basketball sooner. Kentucky’s Hamidou Diallo graduated a semester early and joined the Wildcats in January last season, but did not play. He declared for the NBA draft before deciding to return to Lexington.

Jontay Porter reclassified this year so he could play a year early with his brother, top recruit Michael, at Missouri. Canadian guard R.J. Barrett, considered the top recruit in 2019, has reclassified so he can graduate in 2018.

“With AAU and year-round competition basically, a lot of the players are ready for college-level play at an earlier age,” Gminski told WRAL in Raleigh, North Carolina, in 2015. “And most of these guys have been around a lot. They do a lot of traveling. They tend to mature pretty fast.”

Early graduation in football became popular in the early 2000s, though they typically only do it a semester early to enroll in college for the spring semester and participate in spring practices.

Baseball player Bryce Harper left his Las Vegas high school after his sophomore season and earned his GED so he could start playing professional baseball sooner. He played one season for the College of Southern Nevada and was taken with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2010 MLB draft by the Washington Nationals.

An opposite trend has started playing out in recent years, with parents holding their kids back a year so they can become bigger, stronger and more polished — some as early as middle school. Many top-tier recruits hold off going to college for a year, instead playing for elite prep schools after graduation for more seasoning and exposure.

Bagley opted for the get-to-college-early route, changing the landscape in college basketball in the process

Did Nike plagiarize JellyFam, Minnesota freshman Isaiah Washington to sell kid shoes?

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The JellyFam movement started as nothing more than a way for a little New York City point guard to add some flair to his game, a way to stunt on an opponent when you can’t dunk on that opponent, and has grown into something no one, not even Isaiah Washington, could have imagined.

Washington is that little point guard, and a few years ago, he and a couple of his hooping buddies coined the jelly, which, at its root, is essentially nothing more than a finger roll. Where the magic happens is when that finger comes after weaving around an opponent or finishing the layup despite the presence of a shot-blocker at the rim, with a sprinkle of NYC Point God showmanship. Think Kyrie Irving’s layup package if they happened at Rucker Park with an And1 Mixtape crew filming the game:

What JellyFam has turned into is a full-blown, grassroots movement powered by social media.

And while Washington is the face of the movement, it’s not just him. A half-dozen other talented New York hoopers are members of JellyFam, but Washington is the star. He’s a celebrity on the city’s hoops scene, drawing massive crowds wherever he goes and garnering more than 335,000 followers on Instagram despite having just 27 posts on the site. It’s not as if Washington is a sure-fire NBA All-Star, either. He’s a 6-foot-1, 160 pound point guard that doesn’t crack the top 50 on any of the major recruiting services and is headed to Minnesota to play his college ball.

His popularity is tied directly to the movement that he created.

It’s a shame, however, that he cannot profit off of it, not if he wants to remain an amateur that is eligible to play college basketball.

That doesn’t stop corporations from profiting off of what he has created.

Today, Nike released a new colorway for the kid size PG1s, Paul George’s signature shoe, that has been dubbed the ‘JellyFam PG1’. It’s being sold for $90 on their website right now. This is what it looks like:

What you’ll notice, in addition to purple and turquoise colors that are a staple in the JellyFam gear that Washington wears, is the straps. On the right foot, it says “score in bunches”. On the left foot, you’ll see a design that looks like basketballs on a grapevine … or the grape emoji, with basketballs instead of grapes.

Washington and the rest of the members of JellyFam have adopted the grape emoji as their own when posting on social media.

According to a Nike spokesperson, these shoes were “inspired by Paul George’s love for fresh grapes.”

What Nike is doing here is wrong.

They are trying to capitalize on a movement created by athletes that are not allowed to monetize something they built simply because of the NCAA’s amateurism rules. They are stealing the work created by these young men simply because they can. At worst, this is plagiarism.

Washington did not respond to messages from NBC Sports, but on Friday morning he tweeted, “It’s crazy bro they know I can’t so they just take advantage.” That tweet has since been deleted.

If you read this space, you know my feelings on the NCAA and amateurism. It’s wrong and it needs to be changed, but that’s another column for another day that’s been written thousands of times.

This column is much simpler: An international, multibillion-dollar company like Nike is already profiting off of the unpaid labor of amateur athletes.

Stealing their art, their work, their movement to try and sell sneakers to kids for $90 is despicable.

And I’m not sure there’s anything else to add.